{"id":184,"date":"2022-02-22T17:24:39","date_gmt":"2022-02-22T15:24:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/?p=184"},"modified":"2025-09-15T20:31:47","modified_gmt":"2025-09-15T18:31:47","slug":"baionnettes-ersatz-allemandes-raccourcies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/?p=184","title":{"rendered":"Ba\u00efonnette de type Ersatz allemande raccourcie \u00ab\u00a0N 378\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-44167\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0002-1024x579.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0002-1024x579.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0002-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0002-768x434.jpg 768w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0002-1536x868.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0002-2048x1157.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Longueur :<\/strong>\u00a0env. 373 mm<br \/>\n<strong>\u00f8<\/strong><strong>\u00a0interne\u00a0<\/strong><strong>maxi\u00a0du double anneau\u00a0: <\/strong>23,5\u00a0mm<\/p>\n<p><strong>Armement :<\/strong>\u00a0fusil Mauser G 1888-05, 98<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Valeur :\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0\u20ac\u20ac\u20ac<br \/>\n<strong>Raret\u00e9 :<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-294 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\" alt=\"che1valier\" width=\"40\" height=\"30\" \/><\/a><\/strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-294 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\" alt=\"che1valier\" width=\"40\" height=\"30\" \/><\/a><\/strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-294 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\" alt=\"che1valier\" width=\"40\" height=\"30\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-294 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\" alt=\"che1valier\" width=\"40\" height=\"30\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/che1valier.gif\"><br \/>\n<\/a><\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><span class=\"notranslate\">L&rsquo;Empire ottoman a \u00e9t\u00e9 durement touch\u00e9 par le manque de mati\u00e8re premi\u00e8re durant la Premi\u00e8re Guerre mondiale.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"notranslate\">Son alli\u00e9 allemand lui a fourni une aide de guerre sous la forme de deux mod\u00e8les de fusils, semi-obsol\u00e8tes <strong>Gewehr 1888-05<\/strong> et plus r\u00e9cents Gewehr 1898.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-35565\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/1245250366_turkishsoldierwithersatz1936.jpg.732fb3eaa226a514ab29ea19e1335f15-619x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"827\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/1245250366_turkishsoldierwithersatz1936.jpg.732fb3eaa226a514ab29ea19e1335f15-619x1024.jpg 619w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/1245250366_turkishsoldierwithersatz1936.jpg.732fb3eaa226a514ab29ea19e1335f15-181x300.jpg 181w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/1245250366_turkishsoldierwithersatz1936.jpg.732fb3eaa226a514ab29ea19e1335f15.jpg 662w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><strong>Photo (datant de 1938) d&rsquo;un militaire turc \u00e9quip\u00e9 d&rsquo;un Mauser M-88-05\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ces ba\u00efonnettes proviennent des divers mod\u00e8les Ersatz fournis par les allemands aux turcs, pour \u00e9quip\u00e9s les <span class=\"notranslate\"><strong>Gewehr 1888-05, <\/strong>e<\/span>lles ont ensuite \u00e9t\u00e9 raccourcies de mani\u00e8re standard \u00e0 partir de <strong>1935<\/strong>\u00a0pour \u00e9quiper\u00a0les fusils allemands de type Mauser 88 ou 98.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-44168\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0001-754x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"679\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0001-754x1024.jpg 754w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0001-221x300.jpg 221w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0001-768x1043.jpg 768w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0001-1131x1536.jpg 1131w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0001-1508x2048.jpg 1508w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Ersatz-0001-scaled.jpg 1884w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Ces trois ba\u00efonnettes de type Ersatz apr\u00e8s raccourcissement de la lame ont \u00e9t\u00e9 employ\u00e9es\u00a0avec les fusils utilis\u00e9s durant la Premi\u00e8re Guerre mondiale, convertis en calibre (8\u00d757 mm Mauser) \u00e0 partir de 1935.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>En haut, mod\u00e8le <a href=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/?p=35221\">Ersatz \u00e0 poign\u00e9e lisse.<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Au milieu, mod\u00e8le <a href=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/?p=9470\">Ersatz \u00e0 poign\u00e9e moul\u00e9e.<\/a><\/li>\n<li>En bas, mod\u00e8le (BB47).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43176\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-004-1024x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"601\" height=\"313\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-004-1024x533.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-004-300x156.jpg 300w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-004-768x400.jpg 768w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-004-1536x800.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-004-2048x1067.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 601px) 100vw, 601px\" \/><strong>Comparatif entre un fourreau Ersatz allemand en haut et turques (x3) en bas<\/strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-43177\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-005-792x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"201\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-005-792x1024.jpg 792w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-005-232x300.jpg 232w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-005-768x993.jpg 768w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/yougo-005.jpg 957w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 201px) 100vw, 201px\" \/><strong>Absence de cuvette d&rsquo;entr\u00e9e<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Le fourreau<\/strong>\u00a0utilis\u00e9 avec ce mod\u00e8le de ba\u00efonnette est g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement de type Ersatz allemand. Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 sp\u00e9cialement con\u00e7u afin de s&rsquo;adapter aux dimensions standardis\u00e9es des diverses lames de type Ersatz raccourcies durant les ann\u00e9es 30.\u00a0Le corps en t\u00f4le d&rsquo;acier de pi\u00e8tre qualit\u00e9 peut \u00eatre de finition bronz\u00e9e ou recouvert de peinture verte olive. Il est d\u00e9pourvu de cuvette d&rsquo;entr\u00e9e, une pi\u00e8ce est utilis\u00e9e pour la fixation des deux ressorts \u00e0 lames \u00e0 l&rsquo;aide de rivets. Le bouton de suspension peut \u00eatre de forme arrondie ou de type allemand, certains sont munis de bouterolles d&rsquo;extr\u00e9mit\u00e9 d&rsquo;autres non.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-49657\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6727.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"118\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6727.jpg 640w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6727-300x55.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-49658\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6725.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"288\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6725.jpg 640w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6725-300x135.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-49659\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6726.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"251\" height=\"231\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6726.jpg 640w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6726-300x276.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 251px) 100vw, 251px\" \/><strong>Cuvette sym\u00e9trique sp\u00e9cialement con\u00e7ue pour un M-1938<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ce fourreau<\/strong> assez courant en t\u00f4le d&rsquo;acier bronz\u00e9e, a \u00e9t\u00e9 con\u00e7u afin de s&rsquo;adapter aux dimensions standardis\u00e9es des divers types de lames de ba\u00efonnettes raccourcies ou faites neuves durant les ann\u00e9es 30. La forme de la cuvette d&rsquo;entr\u00e9e ainsi que celle des ressorts sont sp\u00e9cifiques aux diff\u00e9rents profils de lames, elle est maintenue au corps par une vis situ\u00e9e sur la face avant. Le bouton de suspension dont la forme peut varier est arrondi typique des mod\u00e8les turques.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-49661\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6720.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"502\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6720.jpg 640w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6720-300x100.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 502px) 100vw, 502px\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-49662\" src=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6721.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"172\" srcset=\"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6721.jpg 640w, https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/IMG_6721-300x103.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ce porte-fourreau<\/strong> en cuir de fabrication turque, renforc\u00e9 par quatre ou six rivets en cuivre sur rondelles a \u00e9t\u00e9 con\u00e7u pour \u00e9quiper les fourreaux des ba\u00efonnettes mod\u00e8le T 38 et d\u00e9riv\u00e9es. Son aspect est pratiquement identique au mod\u00e8le allemand utilis\u00e9 lors de la Premi\u00e8re Guerre mondiale, \u00e0 ne surtout pas confondre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Remarques perso :<br \/>\n<\/strong>Des vendeurs n&rsquo;h\u00e9sitent pas \u00e0 vendre ces divers mod\u00e8les pour de l&rsquo;Ersatz allemand. M\u00e9fiez-vous !!<\/p>\n<p>Le 15\/09\/25<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Longueur :\u00a0env. 373 mm \u00f8\u00a0interne\u00a0maxi\u00a0du double anneau\u00a0: 23,5\u00a0mm Armement :\u00a0fusil Mauser G 1888-05, 98 Valeur :\u00a0\u00a0\u20ac\u20ac\u20ac Raret\u00e9 :\u00a0 L&rsquo;Empire ottoman a \u00e9t\u00e9 durement touch\u00e9 par le manque de mati\u00e8re premi\u00e8re durant la Premi\u00e8re Guerre mondiale.\u00a0Son alli\u00e9 allemand lui a fourni une aide de guerre sous la forme de deux mod\u00e8les de fusils, semi-obsol\u00e8tes Gewehr 1888-05 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[151],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-184","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liens-n-du-nouvel-abc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=184"}],"version-history":[{"count":81,"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50124,"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/184\/revisions\/50124"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=184"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=184"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/geraldbaios.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=184"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}